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The instances where “first lady” are in lower case should be corrected to “First Lady”. It is an official title, and should be presented as such. 90.240.200.64 (talk) 16:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The full "First Lady of the United States" is generally considered a title and hence capitalised. The shorter "first lady" is a more difficult case, but per MOS:JOBTITLE and judging by usage in sources, I think it should be determined on a case by case basis. In cases where it's used as a shorthand for the full FLOTUS title to refer to its holder, it should be capitalised. In cases where it's referring to first ladies in general, it should not. In ambiguous cases... dunno, flip a coin or something. Either way, I don't believe it's worthwhile combing the whole article (and potentially all articles of former first ladies if we were to standardise) to correct such a trivial thing. Liu1126 (talk) 19:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s rather annoying, but I appreciate you going into more detail than M. Bitton did. I wanted to add that, if the community were to decide to make the standard version capitalised, then surely it would only take around an hour to change all instances of “first lady” throughout Wikipedia, just use the Find and Replace feature. Right? 90.240.200.64 (talk) 16:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s not a job title, I’d even argue it’s a mode of address Thank you for your explanation , Liu. I think the joint effort would be better spent on an article about the position and title itself, and their use and evolution , and role creep. i myself have often wondered why the spouse of a president (i’m using the verb) should be called the First anything, especially in a democracy User:Jabberwoch (talk) 17:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure if this is the correct platform to raise this question in, but I shall anyways. Currently, Melania Trump is listed in the 'History' Good Article Listing category and under the 'Historical miscellaneous' subsection. However, in the 'Social Sciences and Society' category and within the 'Politics and Government' category there is a more accurate subcategory present of 'Spouses of heads of state and heads of government'. Would this not be a more accurate listing for her to be placed in? 24.155.0.146 (talk) 23:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that the article uses her first name "Melania" almost throughout the entire article like "Zampolli urged Melania to travel to the United States ...". Not sure what is the convention but perhaps it would be good to call her "Knavs" or "Knauss" until 2005 when she married Donald Trump. The article semi-reflects the name changes as it calls her "Melanija" in the Early Life section. I see how it's a bit of prosaic liberty in the sections dealing with the relationship with Donald Trump, where he is also referred to as "Donald" to avoid confusion but in many other areas, I think it would be better to call her "Trump", just as Jill Biden, e.g. "Biden lent her support to USAID's FWD campaign, ..." or from Michelle Obamas article "Obama met with Queen Elizabeth II in ...". Not to harp too much on this, but influential women are more often called by their first name.Hiko (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After having written a couple dozen first lady articles, I've found that this is the least confusing way to do it. If someone's far-more-famous spouse is frequently mentioned in the article, then it only throws the reader off to use the name that's more commonly associated with the spouse. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A new portrait of Melania was released for her husband's second term in office. Should her portrait be updated like Trump and Vance or should her current portrait from 2017 remain the same? [1]Thelittlepoliticalboy (talk) 20:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the "Public Image" section, third paragraph, we find the sentence, "The only other first lady to be born outside of the United States had an American father." I wondered who that was, so I followed the footnote link, which went to a foreign language PDF. Could the sentence be modified to read, "The only other first lady to be born outside of the United States, Louisa Adams, had an American father."? 47.45.136.105 (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: It's not an official title. M.Bitton (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the 
